Frequently asked questions about pro-feminist men and pro-feminist men's politics
(By Michael Flood. 3rd edition, revised 3 January 2002. First published 30 January 1997.)
Who are pro-feminist men?
Pro-feminist men are men who are actively supportive of feminism and of efforts to bring about gender justice and equality.
Some pro-feminist men are involved in political activism. One of the most common areas of involvement is men's violence, and there are men's groups in Australia, the US, Canada, Europe and elsewhere who have this as their focus. Pro-feminist men do anti-violence work with boys and young men in schools, offer sexual harassment workshops in workplaces, run community education campaigns, and counsel male perpetrators of violence, just to name a few common activities. Pro-feminist men also are involved in men's health, activism on pornography, academic research on masculinity, the development of gender equity curricula in schools, and many other areas. This work is sometimes in collaboration with feminists and women's services (such as domestic violence and rape crisis centres).
Other pro-feminist men are not active in public campaigns. Nevertheless, their commitment to pro-feminism takes the form of trying to live in egalitarian and respectful ways in their daily lives -- at home, at work and on the street.
Pro-feminist men are sympathetic to feminist understandings of society. We believe that women as a group suffer inequalities and injustices in society, while men as a group receive various forms of power and institutional privilege. The current, dominant model of manhood or masculinity is oppressive to women, as well as limiting for men themselves. We also recognise the costs of masculinity: conformity to narrow definitions of manhood comes with the price tag of poor health, early death, overwork and emotionally shallow relationships. We believe that men must take responsibility for our own sexist behaviours and attitudes and work to change those of men in general. Both personal and social change are vital.
For some men, their sympathy for feminism revolves around a simple acceptance that men and women should be equal. Women should have the access to jobs and areas of public life as do men. For others, being pro-feminist is about a passionate and profound commitment which has changed every corner of their lives. For yet other men, being pro-feminist is about a radical questioning of traditional Western models of thought, of the ways in which these privilege masculine ways of being and knowing. Some men's pro-feminism is informed by contemporary feminist theory, while others' is informed by gut feelings and conversations with their partners and sisters and mothers and friends.
Just as there is substantial diversity and disagreement within feminism, there is diversity among pro-feminist men. One area of disagreement for example is over the extent to which men are also limited or harmed by the gender relations of society. Some men emphasise the privilege that men receive by virtue of being men in a patriarchal or male-dominated society, while others emphasise the ways in which both men and women are constricted by gender roles.
Some pro-feminist men argue that those who emphasise the latter, or who even claim that like women men are "oppressed", are not really pro-feminist or not pro-feminist enough. Others make a distinction between "radical profeminist" and "liberal profeminist" men, and emphasise their shared commitments and similarities.
Pro-feminist men typically also recognise the importance of other forms of injustice and other kinds of social relations, such as those to do with class, race, sexuality, age and disability. Men share very unequally in the fruits of male privilege, `being a man' means different things among different groups and in different arenas, and some forms of manhood are dominant or "hegemonic" while others are marginalised or subordinated.
Pro-feminist men who are politically active have tended to concentrate on a number of specific issues, such as men's violence. However, a pro-feminist perspective is applicable to and relevant for any issue and any area of men's lives. For example, issues of child custody and family law have usually been taken up by men who are non-feminist or anti-feminist (such as "men's rights" and "fathers' rights" groups), but there is no reason why they cannot be taken up as areas of pro-feminist men's activity too.
Men's pro-feminism is like any other set of values, beliefs or political activities. It comes from deeply felt personal experiences, from particular relationships and intimacies and loyalties, from other ethical or political involvements and commitments.
Many men come to pro-feminism out of a sense of distance from traditional masculinity, an unease as boys and throughout their lives with the ways in which they have been expected to hold themselves and to interact with others. They have become aware of the toll taken by the dominant models of how to be a man -- the toll taken on their own emotional, physical and spiritual wellbeing, and the damage done to their relationships, families and communities through violence, self-centeredness and isolation. Men's realisation of the hollowness and corruption of traditional masculinity is a common path to `men's issues', whatever strand of men's organising they then join.
Some men come to pro-feminism because of other deeply felt experiences -- because their loyalty and closeness to a particular woman in their lives -- a mother, a lover, a cherished friend -- has forged an intimate understanding of the injustices suffered by women and the need for men to take action. Some men come to an advocacy of feminism through their commitments to other sorts of principled political activism -- to pacifism, economic justice, green issues, gay liberation and so on. They have been exposed to feminist and related ideals through their political involvements, their workplaces or their higher education. Others get involved in dealing with their own experience of sexual violence or sexual abuse from other men and sometime women. (I am indebted to John Stoltenberg in Refusing to be a man for his eloquent portrayal of such involvements.)
What do we want? A society that is gender-just, equal, democratic and beautiful! When do we want it? Now!
Pro-feminist men want the same things that feminists want: a world in which relations between men and women are peaceful, egalitarian, trusting and joyous; in which neither men nor women are confined into rigid, unhealthy and soul-destroying models of living; in which the rigid division into masculine and feminine has been replaced by a rich and colourful diversity of genders or of ways of being.
That's a good question. Feminism is not one unitary body of theory or one unified movement. In the old days some people talked about liberal, socialist and radical feminisms. And these days you can add at least black and postcolonial feminisms, lesbian and queer feminisms, poststructuralist and postmodern feminisms, and much more. Pro-feminist men share this same diversity, drawing on or influenced by different strands of feminism. And this diversity is evident too in the writings and theory of pro-feminist authors.
Feminism is a movement and a body of ideas developed primarily by, for and about women. Men can never fully know what it is like to be a woman. If we call ourselves "feminists", we run the risk of colonising feminism or looking like we're saying we've got all the answers.
Some feminist women argue that men CAN call themselves feminists, as long as they live up to the same standards as women who are feminists -- to support the equality of women and men. Nevertheless, most pro-feminist men use the label "pro-feminist" rather than "feminist". We believe that there is plenty men can and should do to support feminism, and we don't need to call ourselves "feminists" to do it.
Well, some say yes and some say no. For some people, pro-feminist men are the feminist wing of the men's movement, a movement which also includes men's liberationists, spiritual and mythopoetic men, men's rights and fathers' rights men. There is also internal disagreement within this "movement", for example with pro-feminist men being critical of the anti-feminist and anti-women agendas of men's rights and fathers' rights groups. Others say that pro-feminism is one of a number of separate although overlapping men's movements.
However, some pro-feminist men distance themselves from the men's movement and do not consider themselves to be a part of it. Some believe that there is a potential for backlash within the men's movement, a potential for the movement to turn towards the defence of men's privilege and position, and some would say that this has already occurred. While all pro-feminist men assume that men must act to dismantle gender injustice, some argue that a "men's movement" is not the way to do this. They advocate instead that we build alliances and coalitions with other progressive groups and movements (such as feminism, gay and lesbian liberation, left-wing and socialist movements, and anti-racist struggles).
No. We are anti-sexist, we are anti-patriarchal, but we are not anti-male. Pro-feminist men are hopeful about both men's and women's futures. We believe that men, like women, are perfectly capable of being loving, nurturing and non-oppressive human beings. We reject the idea that men are somehow intrinsically bad, oppressive or sexist. We believe that men can change and we support every man's efforts at positive change. We recognise the need to build close relations and supportive alliances among men, as part of the process of change.
We assume that individual men are not responsible for, and can't be blamed for, social structures and values such as the social construction of masculinity or the history of women's oppression. At the same time, individual men are responsible for their oppressive behaviour (such as violence) and can and should choose to change it.
Of course, being male-positive doesn't mean supporting whatever men do. We have to retain a sense of ethics or values, and to assess men and masculinities accordingly. To give a simple example, a violent masculinity is unacceptable, because violence is ethically unacceptable. And being male-positive is compatible with criticising oppressive or destructive aspects of men's groups or men's movements.
The only sense in which pro-feminism is "anti-male" is that some believe we must dismantle the whole system of dividing people into two "opposite sexes", "male" and "female". In other words, part of the problem is the two-gender system itself, one fundamentally based on hierarchy and privilege. Other pro-feminist men disagree, arguing that we must change the CONTENT of models of masculinity rather than get rid of notions of masculinity and femininity altogether.
Well, pro-feminist men include men across the sexual spectrum. It's hard to say whether the proportion of gay and bisexual men among pro-feminists is any greater than the proportion in society in general (which some people estimate at around ten percent), because no one has done the research. Men often come to a sympathy for feminism through their sexual relationships with women, so this is a specifically heterosexual path to pro-feminism. But gay men have sometimes been drawn to pro-feminism because of their sense of distance from traditional masculinity or their realisation of the links between homophobia (widespread fear and hatred of non-heterosexuals) and sexism.
Those men who question traditional masculinity or behave in non-stereotypical ways are sometimes perceived to be gay (whether they are or not) and attacked in homophobic ways. This is an indication of the strange link often assumed in our society between sexual orientation (who you desire or have sex with) and gender behaviour (conformity to notions of proper manhood).
Many pro-feminist men believe that masculinity is strongly moulded by homophobia and that the dominant model of masculinity is a heterosexual one. Homophobia and heterosexism (a system of heterosexual privilege) represent injustices to non-heterosexual people, and also constrict the lives of heterosexuals. Men in particular find their emotional, social and sexual lives limited by the fear of being perceived as gay. Growing up, men are faced with the continual threat of being seen as gay and the continuous challenge of proving that they are not gay. Homophobia leads men to limit their loving and close friendships with other men, to behave in hypermasculine and aggressive ways and to close up emotionally.
The fear of being seen as gay prevents boys and men from questioning and ultimately abandoning traditional masculinity. Many pro-feminist men thus believe that men and masculinity will not change much until homophobia is radically undermined.
No. Pro-feminist men believe that we have a responsibility to try to change our own sexist behaviours and attitudes and those of other men. We may sometimes feel guilty when we realise that we have acted in hurtful ways, but staying stuck in this guilt is not useful.
Guilt can be part of a normal response when a person is challenged or criticised about an inappropriate or offensive behaviour or remark. Guilt is in one sense the emotion associated with having a conscience. Thus, pro-feminist men don't reject the role of guilt altogether, but nor do we believe that people should stay stuck in guilt. It is much more important that we take action in response to such challenges or criticisms.
Anti-feminist men so far have been more effective than pro-feminist men in speaking to certain aspects of men's lives. They rightly identify areas of pain, confusion and powerlessness which many men experience, although they misdiagnose them and thus misprescribe the cure. Anti-feminist men also fail to identify other problems experienced by men (such as bullying and 'hazing' between boys or men), or wrongly blame women for them.
Anti-feminist men so far have been more effective than pro-feminist men in speaking to certain aspects of men's lives. They rightly identify areas of pain, confusion and powerlessness experienced by many men, although they misdiagnose them and thus misprescribe the cure. Anti-feminist men also fail to identify other problems experienced by men (such as bullying and `hazing' between boys or men), or wrongly blame women for them.
Pro-feminist men are increasingly acknowledging and addressing areas of male pain and disadvantage: the poor state of men's health and boys' education, violence against males, men's painful experiences of divorce and custody, and more. We acknowledge the reality of boys' and men's experiences in this areas. At the same time, we are critical of the broader anti-women and anti-feminist agendas which have sometimes accompanied recognition of these issues, and we disagree with "men's' rights" men about their causes, character and prevalence.
Some "men's rights" strategies in fact are harmful to men themselves. Men's rights advocates have attacked services for women, while calling for either parallel services for men or services for both men and women. Attacking services primarily for women is no way to gain services for men, and is in itself offensive and unethical. Such strategies focus on the wrong target, they antagonise potential supporters, they taint as backlash the need to address such men's issues, and they are based on a simplistic "You've got it, we want it too" logic which may not provide the most appropriate services for men. (For a detailed discussion of these issues, see my article "Responding to men's rights" on the XYonline website.)
Pro-feminist men agree that services and resources should be provided, for example to boys and men who have suffered violence and abuse. These should not be at the expense of resources or funding directed to women. We advocate that men work with women, building alliances and relationships, rather than adopting an "us against them" model based on a "war between the sexes".
Men have a vital role to play in the transformation of gender relations begun by feminism and the women's movements. Pro-feminist men are welcome and important participants in this process. And by taking up gender justice as a personal commitment and a political goal, by living our lives in ways that make a difference, we both help ourselves and change the world.
(a) Net resources
XYonline has a wealth of articles which embody various pro-feminist perspectives and issues. The site also has links to other pro-feminist men's sites around the world. You can find the site at: http://www.xyonline.net
There is now a very good literature on men and gender. A comprehensive bibliography of writing on men, masculinities, gender, and sexualities, The Men's Bibliography, is available free at: http://www.xyonline.net/mensbiblio/
(b) Good reading
Some of the best works on men and masculinity are as follows. (This list is excerpted from the Men's Bibliography, which also includes tables of contents for many of these works.)
i) Reading for the beginner
Note: The following are introductory works that don't require any background in theory or familiarity with academic writing. Works under "The best texts" below are also useful for the beginning reader.
Cooper, Mick and Baker, Peter. (1996). The MANual: The Complete Man’s Guide to Life. London: Thorsons.
Doyle, James A. (1989). The Male Experience. (2nd edition) Iowa: W.M.C. Brown.
Fanning, Patrick and Matthew McKay. (1993). Being a Man: A Guide to the New Masculinity. Oakland, CA: New Harbinger Publications.
Johnson, Allan G. (1997). The Gender Knot: Unraveling our Patriarchal Legacy. Philadelphia: Temple University Press.
Kaufman, Michael. (1993). Cracking the Armour: Power, Pain and the Lives of Men. Toronto, Ontario: Penguin
Levant, Ronald F., With Kopecky, Gina. (1996). Masculinity Reconstructed: Changing the Rules of Manhood at Work, in Relationships, and in Family Life. New York: Plume.
ii) The best texts
Adams, Rachel, and David Savran. (eds). (2002). The Masculinity Studies Reader. Malden, Massachusetts: Blackwell Publishers.
Berger, Maurice, Wallis, Brian and Watson, Simon. (eds). (1995). Constructing Masculinity. New York and London: Routledge.
Brod, Harry. (ed.). (1987). The Making of Masculinities: The New Men’s Studies. Boston: Allen & Unwin.
Brod, Harry and Kaufman, Michael. (eds). (1994). Theorizing Masculinities. London: Sage.
Buchbinder, David. (1994). Masculinities and Identities. Melbourne: Melbourne University Press.
Buchbinder, David. (1998). Performance Anxieties: Re-producing Masculinity. Sydney: Allen & Unwin.
Clatterbaugh, Kenneth. (1990). Contemporary Perspectives on Masculinity: Men, Women, and Politics in Modern Society. Colorado & Oxford: Westview Press.
Connell, R.W. (1987). Gender and Power: Society, the Person and Sexual Politics. Sydney: Allen & Unwin.
Connell, R.W. (1995). Masculinities. Sydney: Allen & Unwin.
Connell, R.W. (2000). The Men and the Boys. Sydney: Allen & Unwin
Digby, Tom. (ed.). (1998). Men Doing Feminism. New York & London: Routledge.
Edley, Nigel and Wetherell, Margaret. (1995). Men in Perspective: Practice, Power and Identity. London: Prentice-Hall.
Edwards, Tim. (1993). Erotics and Politics: Gay Male Sexuality, Masculinity, and Feminism. New York: Routledge.
Gardiner, Judith Kegan. (ed.). (2002). Masculinity Studies and Feminist Theory: New Directions. Columbia University Press.
Haddad, Tony. (ed.). (1993). Men and Masculinities: A Critical Anthology. Toronto: Canadian Scholars’ Press.
Hearn, Jeff and Morgan, David H.J. (eds). (1990). Men, Masculinities and Social Theory. London: Unwin Hyman.
Kaufman, Michael. (ed.). (1987). Beyond Patriarchy: Essays by Men on Pleasure, Power and Change. New York: Oxford University Press.
Kimmel, Michael. (ed.). (1987). Changing Men: New Directions in Research on Men and Masculinity. New York: Sage.
Kimmel, Michael S. (ed.). (1995). The Politics of Manhood: Profeminist Men Respond to the Mythopoetic Men’s Movement (and the Mythopoetic Leaders Answer). Philadelphia: Temple University Press.
Kimmel, Michael S. (2000). The Gendered Society. New York & Oxford: Oxford University Press.
Kimmel, Michael S. and Messner, Michael. (eds). (1998). Men’s Lives. New York/Toronto: Macmillan/Maxwell (4th edition).
Kupers, Terry A. (1993). Revisioning Men’s Lives: Gender, Intimacy, and Power. New York & London: Guilford Press.
Mac an Ghaill, Mairtin. (ed.). (1996). Understanding Masculinities: Social Relations and Cultural Arenas. Buckingham & Philadelphia: Open University Press.
May, Larry. (1998). Masculinity and Morality. Ithaca & London: Cornell University Press.
May, Larry and Robert Strikwerda. (eds). (1992). Rethinking Masculinity: Philosophical Explorations in Light of Feminism. Maryland: Rowman & Littlefield.
McLean, Chris, Carey, Maggie and White, Cheryl. (eds). (1996). Men’s Ways of Being. Boulder, Colorado: Westview Press.
Messner, Michael A. (1997). Politics of Masculinities: Men in Movements. University of Southern California: Sage.
Miedzian, Myriam. (1991). Boys Will Be Boys: Breaking the Link Between Masculinity and Violence. New York: Doubleday.
Pease, Bob. (1997). Men and Sexual Politics: Towards a Profeminist Practice. Adelaide: Dulwich Centre Publications.
Pease, Bob. (2000). Recreating Men: Postmodern Masculinity Politics. London: Sage.
Pease, Bob. (2002). Men and Gender Relations. Melbourne: Tertiary Press.
Petersen, Alan. (1998). Unmasking the Masculine: ‘Men’ and ‘Identity’ in a Sceptical Age. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage.
Pfeil, Fred. (1995). White Guys: Studies in Postmodern Domination and Difference. London & New York: Verso.
Pringle, Keith. (1995). Men, Masculinities and Social Welfare. London: UCL Press.
Segal, Lynne. (1990). Slow Motion: Changing Masculinities, Changing Men. London: Virago.
Simpson, Mark. (1994). Male Impersonators: Men Performing Masculinity. New York: Routledge.
Snodgrass, Jon. (ed.). (1977). A Book of Readings: For Men Against Sexism, Albion CA: Times Change Press.
Stoltenberg, John. (1990). Refusing To Be a Man: Essays on Sex and Justice. CA & Suffolk: Fontana/Collins.
Stoltenberg, John. (1993). The End of Manhood: A Book for Men of Conscience. New York: Dutton. (Also available from Baker & Taylor Replica Books, 1998)
Whitehead, Stephen M. (2002). Men and Masculinities: Key Themes and New Directions. Cambridge: Polity Press.
Whitehead, Stephen M., and Frank J. Barrett. (eds). (2001). The Masculinities Reader. Cambridge: Polity Press.
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